Wow - I caught up with this today, what a wise and wonderful conversation. I was thinking about the story Mari told where Niall kisses the hag, and when she said he didn't know that she would turn into a fair maiden but he did it because he thought it was right. and how if we really go down in the dark we have to do it without attachment to outcome, rather than - I will get this reward if I descend in the "right" way (whether that's some kind of reward, becoming a more evolved person or whatever). how hard that is in practice, to do something like that, to trust. amazing stuff, thank you Layla. loved the image of you both sitting with mascara running down your cheeks! x
YES! this attachment to doing even the letting go ‘right’… I think for me it is the fear of the unknown, as well as fear of the messiness and the sense of being seen as a failure that are blocks… such a beautiful share from Mari, eh?
I’ve listened to this twice now as there was so many juicy things to dig into. I loved this discussion of the descent and unravelling of the season. It feels very relevant to midlife and perimenopause, but also to what I’m writing and thinking about at the moment. My mum died 9 years ago and for various reasons it’s only now I feel able to really allow the grief in and sit with the mess of all my feelings about it.
Wow - I caught up with this today, what a wise and wonderful conversation. I was thinking about the story Mari told where Niall kisses the hag, and when she said he didn't know that she would turn into a fair maiden but he did it because he thought it was right. and how if we really go down in the dark we have to do it without attachment to outcome, rather than - I will get this reward if I descend in the "right" way (whether that's some kind of reward, becoming a more evolved person or whatever). how hard that is in practice, to do something like that, to trust. amazing stuff, thank you Layla. loved the image of you both sitting with mascara running down your cheeks! x
YES! this attachment to doing even the letting go ‘right’… I think for me it is the fear of the unknown, as well as fear of the messiness and the sense of being seen as a failure that are blocks… such a beautiful share from Mari, eh?
Looking forward to listening to this, have loved the Elements conversations so far!
Oh I’m glad you’ve enjoyed them Louise, that’s lovely to know x
I’ve listened to this twice now as there was so many juicy things to dig into. I loved this discussion of the descent and unravelling of the season. It feels very relevant to midlife and perimenopause, but also to what I’m writing and thinking about at the moment. My mum died 9 years ago and for various reasons it’s only now I feel able to really allow the grief in and sit with the mess of all my feelings about it.
This was beautiful, so much wisdom held so tenderly between two women. Thank you both for sharing with us xx